I've been a memeber for a few months now and have had quite a lot of contact from other members - but that's all. Everyone seems to make an excuse or chicken out at the last minute.
Also, you send polite e-mail to members to see if there is a possibility of meeting and hardly anyone can be bothered to reply - even if its to say no thnaks.
I respect the need for people to be careful before agreeing to a meeting but this site just appears to be full of timewasters.
Is there anyone out there who wants to meet?????
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Does anyone actually meet through this site!
Wel the problem is there is a club within a club and a select few are may be having a bit of fun!!!??? but in reality I think this site is more a posers/voyers site full of hot air no action closet flashers who are to scared to actualy put into action what they claim they do. time wasting prick teasers :wank:
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Post edited 06-10-2005 16:31
Warming the Bed
No its not full of time waster, and you will find a lot of couples do meet other couples and some will meet singles but internet sites and the people who use them especially if new to the scene will take a lot longer to get to the meeting stage.
I (Pete) have been in the swinging and fetish scene for 10 years 7 of those years as a single before I met my horney, sexy wife Jane, who I met through the internet and who came to my club as a single girl (I bless that day every year)
When I first came on the scene it was contact mags or clubs (and those clubs were sauna based or brothels used as swinging clubs at the weekend). It took a lot of effort, time, money and travelling, not just posting a picture of my dick and saying ‘want to fuck me girls'.
We now run a club in Dunstable for the last 4 years, and most of the people who attend have never been on an internet swinging site, but we have had some really cool people from this site attend, see comments on our profile.
Also you have to remember, your only bringing yourself to the party, so would we as a couple jump at an invitation to meet you, no, we can play with couples or singles (and we do) any time we want. You have to make yourself available to couples or get a single girl interested and go to parties or clubs or dogging where other like minded people go.
All of that may have seemed a bit harsh, but its just the facts, the single guys that attend our parties are not treated as second class citizens because they have made the effort. They are not guaranteed anything but a cool venue and to be in the company of other couples & singles, the rest is still up to you.
Pete & Jane
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POSERS....TIME WASTERS.....FULL OF HOT AIR....PRICK TEASERS????????????
WHATEVA MASAGE
GO AND VIEW OTHER PEEPS PROFILE PICS.
KNOW ONE CLAIMS TO DO ANYTHING THEY HAVENT ALREADY OR WOULD BE PREPARED TO DO, AND THE PICS ARE PROOF OF THAT - ON PEEPS PROFILES FOR WHOEVA WANTS TO SEE.
UNLIKE YOU I NOTICE........YOU WHO IS COMPLAINING AND CANT EVEN BE BOTHERED TO POST A PIC ON YOUR OWN PROFILE. PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER YOU AS THE TIME WASTER CAUSE THO I CANT SPEAK FOR THE SITE IN GENERAL MY PERSONAL REACTION FOR A PROFILE WITH NO PICS WOULD BE TO IGNORE IT TOO AND NOT REPLY.
Does anyone actually meet through this site?
Well we are living proof as we met through this site and are now a couple. We have met with a few other singles and couples from here and plan to meet more, but what you have to remember Ebow and Masage, is that swingers have lives just like everyone else, and don't spend every evening meeting people for sex or even deciding who they're going to meet next!
I'll tell you one thing that really annoys us, is that our profile quite clearly says we are not looking for single straight guys and any that reply will be ignored, but they STILL keep coming! Maybe if you read people's profiles properly before sending your messages you won't waste so much time and won't be so disappointed when you don't get a reply.
In this "promiscuous society", unfortunately for some the reality is little or no sexual opportunities.
The "alpha" males (or females I guess) get far more opportunities and take away chances for many more people. Kind of ironic really.
So, if you don't have an "edge" of some kind like a huge cock, or good looking/charming (whatever), your chances are lower. However, they must be better by being here at least.
I've had one offer in my first week here, but sadly the other party didn't follow up and make an arrangement - sad, cos I was horny as hell today and would of given them a good fucking. Pah.
Warming the Bed
[quote user=masage]Wel the problem is there is a club within a club and a select few are may be having a bit of fun!!!??? but in reality I think this site is more a posers/voyers site full of hot air no action closet flashers who are to scared to actualy put into action what they claim they do. time wasting prick teasers :wank:
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Massage what is ur problem???
As everyone has stated you post a pic you get more luck....but as u can see on ppls profiles that they have pics of actual meets and they arent FAKE!!! they havent prick teased at all......
I think you are sum what bitter at the fact that you've had no luck....and if ppl flash on cam they doin it for a laugh not because they are 2 scared to put it into action!!! DOH!!!
Actually you're right masage, what we didn't tell you is that all the couples that are members on this site are photoshop geniuses.
none of us have ever met and we are as you say "full of hot air!!"
maybe you could have an imaginary photoshop session with people off this site??......................but you would need a photo in the first place for that!
Thank's ur4it, I agree and am sure there are no accurate figures. However I do believe the numbers are reflective of an actual low rate of "success". I'll believe this until proven wrong.
Why? Well, anyone who has had a meeting will be very keen to "establish" themselves, so as to encourage more meetings. And yes, one does need to cut out of the 100,000 all the innactive members, which could be 10s of thousands. Paid up members seem to be only about 16000. If they are the active hardcore, then the odds are a better, and success rate higher, but still not very good I suspect.
In my locale, there seem to be very few "established" members, and of those, very few report any actual meetings. A lot of us must be prudes, or else the active people are in the clubs!
best regards,
John
[quote user=ebow]I've been a memeber for a few months now and have had quite a lot of contact from other members - but that's all. Everyone seems to make an excuse or chicken out at the last minute.
Also, you send polite e-mail to members to see if there is a possibility of meeting and hardly anyone can be bothered to reply - even if its to say no thnaks.
I respect the need for people to be careful before agreeing to a meeting but this site just appears to be full of timewasters.
Is there anyone out there who wants to meet me ?????[/quote]
By the sounds of it I fear not.
Post edited 11-10-2005 1:47
Warming the Bed
K this is the Evil Klown (mr that is) right lets get 1 thing str8 the reason few single males hav any success is the attitude that is presented, now i am not saying all single males, as we hav made friends with a few kewl guyz off here, but unfortunately most r desperate tossers who hav no manners, as i am sure plenty of other couples will agree, so unfortunately as a single male, right or wrong, u hav a handicap 2 get past str8 away. i know alot of ppl will take offesnce 2 this but the truth is the truth so sue me. if u want success then the Edge u need is not a huge cock as stated in 1 reply but a genuine attitude & polite, friendly nature. i dont know anybody on this site that will follow a profile that does not contain a "useful" pic whether the profile belongs 2 a single male, female or couple. if u r in the chat room then b polite & dont make comments like "get ur tits out" or "put finger in pussy" these lines do not turn women on & only serve 2 piss off male partners as disrespectful comments, this site is not a live porn show, as oh so many single male seem to think, so show proper respect & b pleasant & put a pic of yourself on your profile (pics of your cock r not important 2 most ppl unless they state it in there profile) showing ppl that u really r the sort of person that they want 2 meet & u may find yourself with sumwhat more luck. we hav made alot of friends here & hav had some awesome sex through this site, which i put down to the way we r in our personalities, so if if u dont get a meet u r doing sumthing wrong
I'm outtie
Evil Klown :devil: :fury: :moon: :devil:
Sexlightened
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The exact point Mr Klown! Brilliantly said! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[QUOTE FROM= i dont know anybody on this site that will follow a profile that does not contain a "useful" pic whether the profile belongs 2 a single male, female or couple. if u r in the chat room then b polite & dont make comments like "get ur tits out" or "put finger in pussy" these lines do not turn women on & only serve 2 piss off male partners as disrespectful comments,
well said my friend, well said xxxx :clap:
Post edited 11-10-2005 14:58
Well said war!
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It's not that hard to work out really, I'm sure it doesn't apply to all cpls but this is how it is for us:
couple + couple = fun for all, everyone gets to play, equal terms, everybody's happy 
couple + single fem = rarer than a lottery winning dodo, we can't honestly speak from experiance but with charlie being bi, again - fun for all!
couple + single male = being a straight male, what's in it for me??? lol
We have met single males in the past and had a really great time. we've also made lot's of single male friends in here.
However the reason we no longer meet single males is purely down to attitudes and behaviour of some of the men on this site.
This isn't a cattle market. I'm sure I can speak for all the couples in here when I say that we would like our partners treated with the respect they deserve!
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couple + single fem = rarer than a lottery winning dodo, we can't honestly speak from experiance but with charlie being bi, again - fun for all!
couple + single male = being a straight male, what's in it for me??? lol
We have met single males in the past and had a really great time. we've also made lot's of single male friends in here.
However the reason we no longer meet single males is purely down to attitudes and behaviour of some of the men on this site.
This isn't a cattle market. I'm sure I can speak for all the couples in here when I say that we would like our partners treated with the respect they deserve!
:moon: Evil_k, and cmandcd - :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:!!
....about time the truth outed, and that's from a single male!!
Seriously though, it's very true - there are a few twats who visit chat, who continuously try to direct the women with comments like "tits out please" (sometimes not even a please!), "lower your cam", or even the unsubtle hint "I wonder if.....". Guys, it just doesn't wash! The women are here for their (and their partner's) enjoyment....NOT YOURS!
If you want to be the one who's lucky enough to meet someone from here, stop being so selfish, learn to string two words together to raise a decent conversation and, above all, snap out of the false sense of security that the whole world revolves around you, and that all women are at your beck and call, 'cos none of us are stupid here, and don't like being told what to do!
From a single male who loves the site, with many friends and meets from here, but feels that his chances are still a bit scuppered by a collective of mindless twats.
Post edited 11-10-2005 21:00
Well, I've gone over hundreds of profiles on AFF (should be called NAFF) and scores here. Many of them state that they are only into single men if black, VWE, bi, or "exceptional". Sorry, but this is very common place, and I don't have numbers, but it's a fact. One of the few, if not the only, credible established male in my locale has a big cock and is a heavy cummer - coincidence? I don't think so.
But of course there are "average" guys who are successful as well. I knew this guy at Uni who was nothing to look at (and that's being very kind), and not really a nice person, but he really knew how to charm a woman, and he was very persistent - his bed was rarely without a girl. He had good manners, his dad taught him how to behave like a man.
Given the nature of swinging, and that "strangers" are being invited into ones most personal life, it is obvious that proper manners and a lot of respect are essential.
Perhaps there should be some room rules that bar begging and directing? Or at least insist on some civility for making requests. I've been successful with 2 lovely ladies in the room, by just asking kindly if they would like to help me finish off, while they watch. Virtual dogging? LOL
Most of us lead busy lives, and very few couples (for whatever reasons) want to share their sex lives in a wider circle. Really swinging couples are quite unusual. If they were common, then the single male stampede would not exist, and nor would this site. Good manners simply can't fix this.
all the best,
John
Post edited 11-10-2005 22:42
Most of what isaid here is true. As a sinlge male I find the hardest thing is replies that are not followed up but I don't blame people too much for that. Of course there are timewasters, but who feels horney ALL the time. Some people may reply when they feel like it but after a week or so they lose interest for a bit and that is quite natural. So the wishes of both parties have to co-incide and that further reduces the chances of a meeting.
I think you also have to remember that there are about 100 guys on here (and every other such site) to every single girl. Put with that the attitude of many of the guys and it doesn't make it very easy for the more genuine guys on here 
I prefer to meet couples myself, but the ratio of guys to couples who actually want to meet another single guy isn't that great either.
So, as a single guy on here you have to accept that the odds aren't exactly stacked in our favour!
Lastly, I think there are far more bi-sexual girls than boys on here, so most couples want really to meet another single girl. As those appear to be in scarce supply too, I think many of the couples looking for other couples are because they really want the girl only! After all, what bloke wouldn't want to have some fun with two ladies (briefly drifts off in to fantasy land....)?
All that is just life I'm afraid.
If you can find a girl to swing with, I bet your success rate will rocket! But you may have to be a little more patient and good mannered to find her!
So, don't grumble, just get on with it. I have met people (off AFF, not here sadly) and had a great time; both couples and single girls. It's just you have to put a lot of work into it. But then everything good in life is worth working hard for.
Mind you guys, it would be nice to just get a reply sometimes - even just a thanks but no thanks :(
I prefer to meet couples myself, but the ratio of guys to couples who actually want to meet another single guy isn't that great either.
So, as a single guy on here you have to accept that the odds aren't exactly stacked in our favour!
Lastly, I think there are far more bi-sexual girls than boys on here, so most couples want really to meet another single girl. As those appear to be in scarce supply too, I think many of the couples looking for other couples are because they really want the girl only! After all, what bloke wouldn't want to have some fun with two ladies (briefly drifts off in to fantasy land....)?
All that is just life I'm afraid.
If you can find a girl to swing with, I bet your success rate will rocket! But you may have to be a little more patient and good mannered to find her!
So, don't grumble, just get on with it. I have met people (off AFF, not here sadly) and had a great time; both couples and single girls. It's just you have to put a lot of work into it. But then everything good in life is worth working hard for.
Mind you guys, it would be nice to just get a reply sometimes - even just a thanks but no thanks :( An interesting range of views.
My question is directed more towards couples and naturally relates more to my own situation.
Do couples look more kindly towards a more mature guy who is in a happy relationship but is just looking for some new experiences?
I can empathise with the "bull in a chinashop" syndrome - only to be expected if you're young and frustrated but do you not feel the older, maybe more experiened guy, might be able to bring more to the party?
Surely half the enjoyment for the male partner is watching the action/and new pleasure being given to his partner - something you can't achieve if you are always in the thick of the action!
Post edited 15-10-2005 16:40
I believe cheese_sandwich sums it up when he talks about the attitude of some single males - in other words, wankers who give the rest of us decent guys a bad name.
Advice for any guys who want to make it - be nice, learn to string more then a few words together and engage in conversation (something a bit more than "wanna fuck?").
Act like a twat and it's no wonder no couples or females want to know you - can't get any plainer than that!
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Have to say, We are New only Joined the Site yesterday Thursday 3rd november, and are stunned by the amount of nice people, as in profiles,and lovely pics on most.
cant wait to get to know many of the real nice couples, and get to meet couples and Bi females.
but reading thsi thread we are so excited, and cant wait
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