Hi, due to external circumstances, family!!!!! we have been off the scene for a while, now we're back!!! we are Bill, 47 straight, and Liz 41 and bi. we both smoke and drink, and are generally up for most things!!!!! Not looking for models, cos we definately aren't models!!!!!! just your average normal (ish) horny swingers!!! Bill is 6 foot medium build, and pig ugly (his words!) Liz is 5'4 size 10, and sexy as hell :) we are looking for COUPLES only for fun drinks and whatever ;) we don't do single guys or seperate rooms, but most anything else is possible!!! interested? then drop us a line, try billnliz_ on windows live messenger